Chat Log: October 2nd, 2010

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[07:04] #knownspace> nedry: has the chat started yet?
[07:04] #knownspace> nedry: heh
[09:45] #knownspace> sean: nope
[10:12] #knownspace> nedry: how about now?
[10:30] #knownspace> nedry: now?
[10:30] #knownspace> nedry: i can't decide what to make for dinner...
[10:30] #knownspace> nedry: sigh.
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[12:33] #knownspace> sean: i am doing garlic jalepeno tilapia
[12:34] #knownspace> sean: never can spell that word
[12:49] #knownspace> nedry: is that a kind of fish?
[12:50] #knownspace> Merlin_McCarley: Aye
[12:56] #knownspace> nedry: never had that
[12:56] #knownspace> sean: its a generic whitefish
[12:57] #knownspace> Merlin_McCarley: Make it habanero and I'll be happier.
[12:57] #knownspace> sean: really doesnt have any flavor of its own. takes on the flavor of what you cook with it.
[12:57] #knownspace> sean: habanero would be a bit hot for julie.
[12:57] #knownspace> Merlin_McCarley: It it the bandersnatch of the fish world.
[13:01] #knownspace> sean:
[13:02] #knownspace> nedry: sounds nice to me
[13:04] #knownspace> Akiraa: so it looks like P2P crypto will become illegal, if the FBI have their way
[13:06] #knownspace> Akiraa:
[13:08] #knownspace> Merlin_McCarley: Bah, good luck to them. Would be a rights nightmare. International implications would keep it locked in legislation for decades.
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[13:14] #knownspace> sean: hi nick
[13:26] #knownspace> NickE: Greetings programmes
[13:27] #knownspace> NickE: (in and out this evening)
[13:33] #knownspace> nedry: how does it make you feel that I is a program?
[13:34] #knownspace> Merlin_McCarley: Would it help if I prefer to think of ye as constructs?
[13:38] #knownspace> NickE: hm, thought talk like a pirate day was a couple of weeks back :)
[13:38] #knownspace> Merlin_McCarley: Ye is just English. I did not say Yarr or Argg.
[13:40] #knownspace> NickE: Arrr
[13:40] #knownspace> NickE: Of course Ye would have been pronounced "thee"
[13:41] #knownspace> NickE: When it was in use
[13:41] #knownspace> NickE: I just always liked that greeting from Tron
[13:42] #knownspace> Merlin_McCarley: Hello Constructs is from Ashes to Ashes, yes I did recognize it ;)
[13:44] #knownspace> NickE: Never got pats the first few eps of Ashes, it was no Life on Mars
[13:45] #knownspace> Merlin_McCarley: True, but nice eye candy. And the payoff is quite good. You didn't seriously watch it for Simm did ye?
[13:45] #knownspace> Merlin_McCarley: Glenister is the bomb.
[13:46] #knownspace> NickE: Admitted, Gene Hunt was a great character
[13:47] #knownspace> NickE: I just thought that the 80s was too close if you know what I mean. I grew up in 70s Britain
[13:47] #knownspace> NickE: And yes, it was that grim :-)
[13:48] #knownspace> Merlin_McCarley: Ah, stateside here (same decades). Apart from some of the culture/politics it was very similar over here.
[13:50] #knownspace> Merlin_McCarley: Keeley Hawes though, -drool-
[13:50] #knownspace> NickE: fair nuff :-)
[13:50] #knownspace> Merlin_McCarley: :P
[13:51] #knownspace> NickE: brb
[14:19] #knownspace> NickE: back, but will b eating shortly
[14:20] #knownspace> NickE: BTW, bought a print at Dragon Con this year which is quite simply one of the nicest and accurate depictions of the Ringorld that I have evr seen
[14:21] #knownspace> NickE: Ringworld (typing up to my usual standards I see)
[14:21] #knownspace> sean: off to a store so julie can buy scratch off lottery tickets... sigh
[14:23] #knownspace> NickE: maybe this time eh :-)
[14:28] #knownspace> NickE: The artist of this RW print was John E Kaufmann. Lovely bloke, frighteningly talented computer graphic artist - does astronomically accurate pics of stunning quality
[14:28] #knownspace> NickE: as well as plenty of other cool stuff
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[14:30] #knownspace> Lensman: Hi, fen!
[14:32] #knownspace> NickE:
[14:33] #knownspace> NickE: great pic
[14:34] #knownspace> NickE: you can see the spaceport rings and FOG desert to the right (FOG itself on this scale is invisible)
[14:35] #knownspace> NickE: all as to scale as possible.
[14:35] #knownspace> NickE: dinnertime. back in a bit
[14:41] #knownspace> Lensman: Yes, that's a great image. I haven't used it at the Incompleat Known Space Concordance yet, but I'm seriously thinking of a Ringworld image gallery.
[14:44] #knownspace> NickE: the nice thing was, I stopped in my tracks when I saw this, John asked if I was a Niven fan and I just happened to be wearing my Larryniven-L T shirt!
[14:51] #knownspace> Lensman: LarryNiven-L T-shirt? First I've heard of any T-shirt! Where can I get one?
[14:56] #knownspace> NickE: I knocked up a front and back iron on set of shirts for WorldCon 2005 in Glasgow. Larry couldn't attend in the end, but Tim Atkinson and I had lunch with Brenda Cooper and she took one home with her for Larry (who got it as far as I recall)
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[14:57] #knownspace> dmac44: Hey
[14:58] #knownspace> NickE: Front had the puppeteer pic from the Larryniven-L website, name of the list and URL, bach had same name and URL bu the great sequential kzin "ears" pic from the RW RPG
[14:58] #knownspace> NickE: hi
[14:59] #knownspace> NickE: I still have the patter as word docs somewhere
[14:59] #knownspace> NickE: pattern
[15:00] #knownspace> NickE: I'm sure i discussed this all on list at the time, but that was 5 years ago (less active last couple of years)
[15:01] #knownspace> NickE: As I recall, I offered and even sent out attachments to anyone that wanted them
[15:05] #knownspace> NickE: (fetching beer, brb)
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[15:09] #knownspace> Larry: Hello.
[15:09] #knownspace> NickE: H Larry!
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[15:10] #knownspace> Larry: What's new, Nick?
[15:10] #knownspace> NickE: This
[15:10] #knownspace> NickE:
[15:11] #knownspace> SolBelter: Lensman, Larry, sean - hello
[15:11] #knownspace> NickE: met the artist at Dragon Con. very nice stuff
[15:11] #knownspace> Lensman: Hi, SolBelter!
[15:11] #knownspace> NickE: Everyone is showing up
[15:11] #knownspace> NickE: oops
[15:12] #knownspace> Lensman: Well, if you would please send me a copy of the T-Shirt design to me at, I'd appreciate it!
[15:12] #knownspace> SolBelter: Lensman, thx for your comments on my "Enjoying Ringworld" for the Tor "Rereading Ringworld"
[15:13] #knownspace> NickE: How's things Larry?
[15:13] #knownspace> Larry: I was at 2 Dragon Cons. Huge. Fun. At one I was ill. At the other I replaced Zelazny as guest. I should go again.
[15:13] #knownspace> SolBelter: [sorry NickE, but wanted to say that to Lensman in case i lose connex again]
[15:13] #knownspace> NickE: Please do! Wait till 2012 though as that's trhe earliest I will be able to afford it again :-)
[15:13] #knownspace> Lensman: SolBelter: I hope you will complete that article. I didn't realize you were not a member of our team... I don't think you asked to be added to our discussion group, or if you did I missed it.
[15:14] #knownspace> NickE: This year was fantastic
[15:14] #knownspace> Larry: It's been hot, and we've been having trouble with air conditioners. Otherwise life is placid.
[15:14] #knownspace> Lensman: Hi Larry! I just now realized you were here. That's what I get for multi-tasking.
[15:14] #knownspace> NickE: Which is no bad thing :-)
[15:14] #knownspace> Lensman: Larry, have you seen a copy of THE BEST OF LARRY NIVEN?
[15:15] #knownspace> SolBelter: ah, the humidity of Earth, unlike dry Down, WeMadeIt?, any others?
[15:15] #knownspace> Larry: Hi, Lensman. No, I haven't seen the book, but I've seen good reviews.
[15:15] #knownspace> SolBelter: NickE - yes, chinese uninteresting times'
[15:15] #knownspace> Lensman: Sol: I should have said, I hope you will complete that article SOON. I'd like it to be the second blog post, and the first has already been submitted.
[15:16] #knownspace> Larry: Selecting which stories to leave out was a terrible task.
[15:16] #knownspace> SolBelter: Roger, Lensman
[15:16] #knownspace> Lensman: Larry: Oh, did you have input on which stories were selected?
[15:17] #knownspace> Larry: Yes, I selected which stories went in.
[15:17] #knownspace> NickE: So many to chose from - not that I'm complaining!
[15:17] #knownspace> Larry: I was given a word limit.
[15:18] #knownspace> SolBelter: Ballantine once did the 'Best of cordwainer smith', so i wanted them to call the next volume 'Thed Worst of Ccordwainer Smith' :)
[15:18] #knownspace> NickE: For each story length?
[15:18] #knownspace> Lensman: By the way, BETRAYER OF WORLDS is out October 12, and we all have ou