Chat Log: Feburary 2nd, 2013

2013-02-02 03:34:54 : <fredskuentz> Outside: tell us how long it is until the chat
2013-02-02 03:34:57 : <fredskuentz> grr
2013-02-02 03:35:07 : <fredskuentz> Outsider: tell us how long it is until the chat
2013-02-02 03:35:08 : <Outsider> fredskuentz: I'll pass that on when us is around.
2013-02-02 03:35:19 : <fredskuentz> oh well, worth a try
2013-02-02 03:35:19 : <fredskuentz> :)
2013-02-02 03:35:59 : <fredskuentz> Outsider: tell Gofffan "Welcome to your third Niven chat!"
2013-02-02 03:35:59 : <Outsider> fredskuentz: I'll pass that on when Gofffan is around.
2013-02-02 09:05:19 : "CrazyEddy" left the channel.
2013-02-02 09:21:29 : "CrazyEddy" joined the channel.
2013-02-02 09:22:25 : "CrazyEddy" left the channel.
2013-02-02 09:24:06 : "CrazyEddy" joined the channel.
Left all channels
2013-02-02 09:27:20 : "CrazyEddy" joined the channel.
us
2013-02-02 13:49:34 : <us> hello
2013-02-02 13:49:35 : <Outsider> us: 03:35Z <fredskuentz> tell us how long it is until the chat
2013-02-02 13:49:38 : <us> heh
SeanS
2013-02-02 15:07:39 : <fredskuentz> lol
2013-02-02 15:13:52 : <andy> I'm leaving to go to Orlando shortly, so I won't be able to participate in the chat today. :(
andyAFK
2013-02-02 16:17:26 : <fredskuentz> Outsider: tell andy we'll miss him
2013-02-02 16:17:27 : <Outsider> fredskuentz: I'll pass that on when andy is around.
2013-02-02 17:49:22 : "iFred" joined the channel.
2013-02-02 18:02:03 : "iFred" left the channel.
2013-02-02 18:28:05 : <SeanS> .weather 40601
2013-02-02 18:28:07 : <Outsider> Overcast ☁, 33.8℉ (1℃), 30.08in (1015mb), Gentle breeze 7kt (↑) - KLOU 17:53Z
2013-02-02 19:19:29 : "NickE" joined the channel.
2013-02-02 19:19:58 : <NickE> Greetings gentlefen
2013-02-02 19:24:00 : "Lensman" joined the channel.
2013-02-02 19:24:22 : <Lensman> Hi fen!
2013-02-02 19:24:40 : <NickE> Hi Lens
2013-02-02 19:25:47 : <NickE> bit quiet (tho only been in 5 mins)
2013-02-02 19:26:31 : "Jim" joined the channel.
2013-02-02 19:31:19 : <NickE> hi Jim
2013-02-02 19:32:18 : <Jim> hi
2013-02-02 19:38:38 : <NickE> noodling about elsewhere so sorry if I take a while to reply - though its v quiet right now
2013-02-02 19:41:57 : <Lensman> Quiet as a Kzin waiting to pounce...
2013-02-02 19:42:34 : <Lensman> Quiet as a Mercury super-amoeba flowing along...
2013-02-02 19:43:02 : <Lensman> Quiet as a superthermal laser bouncing off a stasis field...
2013-02-02 19:52:06 : "Hippy" joined the channel.
2013-02-02 19:52:21 : <Hippy> Morning, everyone
2013-02-02 19:55:45 : <NickE> Evenin mate
2013-02-02 19:56:06 : <Hippy> And afternoon to everyone else :)
2013-02-02 19:56:38 : <Jim> What is a mercury super-amoeba?
2013-02-02 19:57:04 : <Hippy> Er. . .to get to the other side?
2013-02-02 19:57:19 : <SeanS> I think he meant the Helium-2 super amoeba on pluto in wait it out.
2013-02-02 19:57:25 : <Hippy> I suspect it's some type of hupothetcal life similar to a helium II lifeform
2013-02-02 19:57:48 : <Hippy> Or the ones on Mercury in 'The Coldest Place'
2013-02-02 19:58:42 : <fredskuentz> greets all
2013-02-02 19:58:57 : <Hippy> Hi, Fred
2013-02-02 20:00:01 : <NickE> H FRad, Hi Sean
2013-02-02 20:00:04 : <Lensman> The helium II life-form descriibed in "The Coldest Place". Similar one in "Flatlander", on the antimatter planet.
2013-02-02 20:00:05 : <NickE> Fred even :-)
2013-02-02 20:00:28 : <Lensman> "Super-amoeba" is my description, not Larry's.
2013-02-02 20:00:54 : <Hippy> So, it's a Mercurian super amoeba
2013-02-02 20:01:02 : <Hippy> Nothing to do with the element mercury
2013-02-02 20:01:16 : <Lensman> Corect.
2013-02-02 20:01:27 : <Lensman> ...unlike my spelling this PM.
2013-02-02 20:02:18 : <Jim> Is "The Coldest Place" part of the Known Space fictional universe/canon?
2013-02-02 20:02:48 : <Hippy> I think it's the first of them
2013-02-02 20:03:14 : <Hippy> It must be, because it's Larry's first published story and it fits in the canon
2013-02-02 20:03:18 : <Lensman> Yes, the first written and the first chronologically.
2013-02-02 20:03:46 : <Hippy> We need more of those Eric the Cyborg ones
has promised himself not to mention the 'C' word this session
2013-02-02 20:04:46 : <Jim> What is the C word?
2013-02-02 20:04:51 : <Hippy> Oops. Not 'cyborg', but the other 'c' word
2013-02-02 20:05:01 : <Lensman> Eric the Cyborg is indeed an interesting character. Yes, I do wish there were more.
2013-02-02 20:05:19 : <Jim> Newt Gingrich is married to a cybernetic organism.
2013-02-02 20:05:20 : <Hippy> I've promised not to mention it, but suffice it to say that it involves 'copying'
2013-02-02 20:05:59 : <Hippy> In the sens that she's kept alive by prosthetic aids?
2013-02-02 20:06:15 : <Hippy> Or in the sense that she's a remorseless killinngmachine?
2013-02-02 20:06:25 : <Jim> In the sense that all of her looks is due to cosmetic surgery.
2013-02-02 20:06:26 : <Lensman> LOL
2013-02-02 20:06:44 : <Hippy> LOL
2013-02-02 20:06:47 : <Lensman> That makes her an android, not a cyborg.
2013-02-02 20:07:15 : <Jim> Nope, android is a robot. Maybe she is a robot after all?
2013-02-02 20:07:50 : <Lensman> No, an android is an artificially created humanoid being.
2013-02-02 20:08:17 : <Lensman> A humaniform robot is not an adroid, despite the misuse of the word on certain skiffy TV shows.
2013-02-02 20:08:21 : <Jim> NG's wife started life as a normal human being.
2013-02-02 20:08:52 : <Lensman> But she's had her personality transferred to an artificially created body. :)
2013-02-02 20:09:02 : <Hippy> Whereas Newt actually started life as one of the genus Mulga
2013-02-02 20:11:21 : <Jim> What is in the genus Mulga?
2013-02-02 20:11:34 : <Lensman> Hippy wins!
2013-02-02 20:11:55 : <Hippy> I thought you would look it up. It's the genus that contains newts
, having made my joke, retires into the wings
2013-02-02 20:12:48 : <Lensman> Actually that's coming up "snake", not "newt".
2013-02-02 20:13:12 : <Hippy> It is? I should've looked it up
2013-02-02 20:13:31 : <Hippy> Science having defeated my joke, I return to the stage to have another go
2013-02-02 20:13:54 : <Lensman> I thought he was making a political statement.
2013-02-02 20:14:45 : <Hippy> No, no. Is Newt even still in the Congress?
2013-02-02 20:14:55 : <Jim> no
2013-02-02 20:15:05 : <Hippy> Ah
2013-02-02 20:15:28 : <Jim> He did run for POTUS.
2013-02-02 20:15:41 : <Hippy> When?
2013-02-02 20:15:54 : <Lensman> Last year.
2013-02-02 20:15:59 : <Jim> 2012 republican primary
2013-02-02 20:16:28 : <Hippy> He barely made the news here, then. It was all Romney, all the time
2013-02-02 20:18:02 : <Lensman> You were not subjected to two years of 24/7 coverage of the primary race. There was a musical chairs roster of GOP front-runners. I think there were seven (?) candidates leading the polls at different times. Including decidedly non-serious candiates.
2013-02-02 20:18:48 : <Lensman> Some would include Newt in that latter category.
2013-02-02 20:19:33 : <Hippy> There was a lot more coverage of it here than in previous years (except 2008) probably because of that. Plus we do love the bunting and hoopla of the primaries
2013-02-02 20:19:56 : <Lensman> They say he's making too much money writing books and doing the lecture circuit, that running for prez was just a publicity stunt for his money making.
2013-02-02 20:19:57 : <Hippy> Yes, Newt's day has passed
2013-02-02 20:20:28 : <Hippy> Probably true.
2013-02-02 20:21:09 : <Jim> Newt's problem was that he had created more than 200 enemies when he was Speaker of the House of Representatives.
2013-02-02 20:21:23 : <Hippy> Anyway, we've got a Federal election coming up on September 14th, so that'll be fun
2013-02-02 20:21:33 : <SeanS> anybody read Bowl of Heaven yet?
2013-02-02 20:21:39 : <Jim> nope
2013-02-02 20:21:46 : <Hippy> Is that by Newt?
2013-02-02 20:21:55 : <Jim> Who is running for PM in Oz?
2013-02-02 20:22:01 : <Hippy> No, but I will get the audiobook I think
2013-02-02 20:22:32 : <Lensman> I confess I don't have the book. Money has been very tight. Hopefully I'll be able to get it in a couple of months.
2013-02-02 20:22:55 : <Jim> money has been tight here too
2013-02-02 20:23:12 : <Hippy> Well, the PM is the head of the party with the majority in the House of Reps, so they don't actually run in the sme way that the POTUS does, but the contenders at the moment are Julia Gillard (Labor (ie, Democrat)) and Tony Abbott (Liberal (ie, Elephant))
2013-02-02 20:23:37 : <Lensman> I'm also missing /Stars and Gods/, and I haven't even seriously considered getting /The Best of Larry Niven/, altho I ought to because of the interstitial notes.
2013-02-02 20:23:50 : <NickE> fuck me, an actual Niven comment
2013-02-02 20:23:53 : <Jim> I heard that there was an Anarchy party in Oz.
2013-02-02 20:24:12 : <NickE> Not read Bowl or even got Stars and Gods yet
2013-02-02 20:24:24 : <fredskuentz> I'm still trying to get through FATE OF WORLDS
2013-02-02 20:24:33 : <Hippy> There is the Anarchists, yes. They usually put up a couple of nominations for the Senate
2013-02-02 20:24:48 : <Jim> Is "Stars and Gods" in MMPB yet?
2013-02-02 20:25:01 : <NickE> Need to get that too - hoping it's worth putting on teh birthday list - will read it at some point anyway
2013-02-02 20:25:11 : <Hippy> I've got Stars and Gods, which is good. The intersititial notes in 'Best of' aren't that informative
2013-02-02 20:25:12 : <Lensman> I confess I've had absolutely no desire to re-read FATE OF WORLDS. Seems to be a rehash of the preceding books.
2013-02-02 20:25:16 : <NickE> Aye waiting for PBK version of that
2013-02-02 20:25:38 : <Hippy> And it preserves tha Zimbabwe nonsense in 'The Fourth Profession' GRRRRR!!!!!
2013-02-02 20:25:55 : <Lensman> ?
2013-02-02 20:26:01 : <fredskuentz> It actually has post-Ringworld's Children Louis Wu content
2013-02-02 20:26:11 : <NickE> likewise ?
2013-02-02 20:26:36 : <NickE> Oooh. that could be worth reading then
2013-02-02 20:26:40 : <Lensman> Well, the alternate-world Louis WU. Not the Louis from RINGWORl.
2013-02-02 20:26:47 : <Lensman> RINGWORLD.
2013-02-02 20:26:58 : <fredskuentz> so, serious question
2013-02-02 20:26:58 : <NickE> well, yes, I already came to that conclusion
2013-02-02 20:27:00 : <Hippy> In 'The Fourth Profession' the country mentioned is Rhodesia. It was changed to Zimbabwe for the reprint in. . .N-Space, I think. This piece of revisionist history was repeated in 'Best of'
2013-02-02 20:27:04 : <fredskuentz> since Lensy brought it up
2013-02-02 20:27:25 : <fredskuentz> I agree that RW Louis is an alternate version
2013-02-02 20:27:38 : <fredskuentz> I'd probably argue that TRWT Louis is too
2013-02-02 20:27:43 : <Lensman> "The Fourth Profession" is set in Africa?
2013-02-02 20:27:46 : <NickE> Have to confess I'd not spotted that - and have read both versions
2013-02-02 20:27:51 : <fredskuentz> What about Ringworld Engineers Louis?
2013-02-02 20:27:55 : <Hippy> That's why I haven't read the 'OF WORLDS' stuff
2013-02-02 20:28:06 : <fredskuentz> Is he the same character as Ringworld Louis?
2013-02-02 20:28:29 : <Lensman> I probably haven't read the version in /N-Space/. I generally prefer to read the original book publication.
2013-02-02 20:28:34 : <Hippy> No, it makes reference to the fact that the Monks are only intersted in countries that can build spacecraft, which (in the original) Rhodesia can't
2013-02-02 20:28:52 : <Lensman> Altho of course for RINGWORLD, one should read a later printing.
2013-02-02 20:28:57 : <fredskuentz> And if (or if not) how many Louis versions are there? 4, one for each RW novel? Or can we group 'em?
2013-02-02 20:29:13 : <NickE> not in history of KS as we've known it for some time - there are ways to reconcile, but none that I'm happy with
2013-02-02 20:29:59 : <NickE> easeir to view Of WOrlds Louis sas an alternate version. Interesting enough, but not the Flatlander we all grew up with
2013-02-02 20:30:11 : <fredskuentz> absolutely
2013-02-02 20:30:29 : <fredskuentz> Of World Louis can get lumped with Ringworld's Children Louis
2013-02-02 20:30:47 : <Lensman> I suppose you can argue that RWT and RWC are alternate universe KS, but I would prefer not to, even if I did have to make up two separate timelines for the RW books since the last two use different dates.
2013-02-02 20:30:52 : <fredskuentz> And I think we can group RW and Engineers Louis
2013-02-02 20:31:20 : <fredskuentz> Different dates, different character histories ...
2013-02-02 20:31:29 : <NickE> well, I can handle RWC Louis as part of it if we accept RWC as being same universe as the others
2013-02-02 20:31:36 : <Lensman> We can certainly lump RWT with RWC. I'd lump RE with RW, myself.
2013-02-02 20:31:55 : <fredskuentz> Does THRONE use the same differing dates as CHILDREN?
2013-02-02 20:32:07 : <Lensman> Yes, Fred.
2013-02-02 20:32:17 : <fredskuentz> k, then, we have 2 Louis
2013-02-02 20:32:20 : <Lensman> See my timelines for Ringworld.
2013-02-02 20:32:57 : <NickE> still fun to read though
2013-02-02 20:33:08 : <Lensman> http://news.larryniven.net/concordance/content.asp?page=Timeline%20for%20the%20Ringworld
2013-02-02 20:33:11 : <Hippy> Yep
2013-02-02 20:33:33 : <Lensman> I love /Ringworld's Children/! Moreso than RWE, and of course much more than RWT.
2013-02-02 20:34:22 : <NickE> well yes - having been there at the germ of teh idea for it, I was facinated to read it
2013-02-02 20:34:49 : <NickE> I Should re - read it, haven't for some time
2013-02-02 20:35:11 : <SeanS> It is pretty cool that Larry interacts with us as he does.
2013-02-02 20:35:21 : <fredskuentz> hey shawn
2013-02-02 20:35:31 : <fredskuentz> my buddy richard tried to log in from his ipad
2013-02-02 20:35:37 : <fredskuentz> got a 'flash required' intercept
2013-02-02 20:35:48 : <fredskuentz> gah
2013-02-02 20:35:49 : <fredskuentz> sean
2013-02-02 20:35:51 : <SeanS> it is required to use the flash client
2013-02-02 20:35:51 : <fredskuentz> sorry
2013-02-02 20:36:01 : <SeanS> no worries
2013-02-02 20:36:10 : <fredskuentz> were is he hitting the flash client?
2013-02-02 20:36:15 : <fredskuentz> I don't know what he's trying to do
2013-02-02 20:36:16 : <SeanS> like I have never seen my name mispelled before.
2013-02-02 20:36:45 : <SeanS> he is browsing to irc.larryniven.net which causes my apache web server to send him the flash irc client.
2013-02-02 20:36:52 : <fredskuentz> k
2013-02-02 20:37:10 : <fredskuentz> I gave him the info for the iPad IRC app I use
2013-02-02 20:37:18 : <SeanS> he can get an actual irc client for the ipad ...
2013-02-02 20:37:20 : <Hippy> It is pretty cool that he chats to us, yes indeed
2013-02-02 20:37:33 : <NickE> Yeah, I like that he has teh time and patience with fen to hang out with us
2013-02-02 20:37:58 : <NickE> and listen
2013-02-02 20:38:11 : <NickE> (that counts for a lot)
2013-02-02 20:38:27 : <Lensman> Indeed it does!
confesses to a bit of fanboy squee when Larry acknowledges one of his comments
2013-02-02 20:39:12 : <fredskuentz> heh
2013-02-02 20:40:37 : <SeanS> how is the summer in Oz, Hippy? Having a blizzard here.
is exaggerating somewhat.
2013-02-02 20:41:19 : <Lensman> February here would be the equivalent of August there.
2013-02-02 20:41:27 : <Hippy> Unseasonalby cold for February, but the rain has put out a lot of the bushfires, so that's something. I think it's a mild 72 or so at the moment
2013-02-02 20:41:52 : <Jim> 72 degrees Celsius?
2013-02-02 20:41:58 : <Lensman> LOL
2013-02-02 20:42:03 : <NickE> brb
2013-02-02 20:42:04 : <fredskuentz> What's the zip code for OZ?
2013-02-02 20:42:06 : <Hippy> We had a big bushifre about 12 miles West of me, but that's as bad as it has got locally
2013-02-02 20:42:12 : <SeanS> that would be global warming. ;)
2013-02-02 20:42:26 : <fredskuentz> .weather 85018
2013-02-02 20:42:28 : <Outsider> Overcast ☁, 69.8℉ (21℃), 30.17in (1018mb), Calm 0kt (↑) - KPHX 19:51Z
2013-02-02 20:42:35 : <Hippy> It would be a bit toasty, yes. But a cold beer would solve it
2013-02-02 20:42:36 : <Lensman> Yeah, that would be REAL global warming!
2013-02-02 20:43:48 : <Hippy> Mighty overcast, too, as I glacne out the window
2013-02-02 20:44:15 : <SeanS> like i said... snowing here.
2013-02-02 20:44:32 : <Jim> about 6 inches of snow here
2013-02-02 20:44:46 : <SeanS> maybe 2 here.
2013-02-02 20:44:47 : <Jim> .weather 26287
2013-02-02 20:44:48 : <Outsider> LFLU: no such ICAO code, or no NOAA data
2013-02-02 20:45:33 : <Hippy> .weather YMML
2013-02-02 20:45:34 : <Outsider> Cloudy, 16℃, 1018mb, Light breeze 5kt (↑) - YMML 20:30Z
2013-02-02 20:45:42 : <Jim> .weather 26241
2013-02-02 20:45:43 : <Outsider> LFLU: no such ICAO code, or no NOAA data
2013-02-02 20:45:48 : <Lensman> .weather 66109
2013-02-02 20:45:49 : <Outsider> Scattered, 41.0℉ (5℃), 30.16in (1018mb), Light breeze 6kt (↑) - KMCI 19:53Z
2013-02-02 20:46:22 : <Hippy> Interesting how the air pressure is the same in Melbourne and KC
2013-02-02 20:46:48 : <Hippy> Anyway, take 3C off the Melbourne temp and you get Ballarat temp
2013-02-02 20:47:01 : <SeanS> barometric pressure actually.
2013-02-02 20:47:07 : <Lensman> It's a lot warmer here today than yesterday! Above freezing today.
2013-02-02 20:47:34 : <SeanS> it was 70 on tuesday and down to 13 by thursday.
2013-02-02 20:47:38 : <Hippy> What's the difference between air pressure and barometric pressure?
2013-02-02 20:47:48 : <Jim> nothing
2013-02-02 20:48:14 : <Hippy> That's what I thought
2013-02-02 20:49:51 : <Jim> .weather WELK
2013-02-02 20:49:53 : <Outsider> Overcast ☁, 3.2℉ (-16℃), 30.04in (1014mb), Moderate breeze 14kt (↑) - CYVC 20:00Z
2013-02-02 20:50:20 : <Hippy> Now that's cold!
2013-02-02 20:51:51 : <Jim> I do not know where the weather station WELK is at. It is not in WV.
2013-02-02 20:52:49 : <Jim> .weather WWVA
2013-02-02 20:52:50 : <Outsider> No ICAO code found, sorry
2013-02-02 20:53:25 : <Jim> .weather PIA
2013-02-02 20:53:27 : <Outsider> Clear ☼, 12℃, 988mb, Gentle breeze 8kt (↑) - LIBP 19:50Z
2013-02-02 20:53:44 : <Jim> .weather HTS
2013-02-02 20:53:46 : <Outsider> Cloudy, 2℃, 1003mb, Fresh breeze 31km/h (17kt) (↑) - EDAC 15:50Z
2013-02-02 20:54:25 : <Jim> enough weather talk
2013-02-02 20:54:36 : <SeanS> I was wondering ;)
2013-02-02 20:54:57 : <Hippy> According to the Wikipedia, WELK is in Elkins, WV
2013-02-02 20:55:39 : <Jim> Unfortunately, the weather stations do not correspond to radio broadcast stations.
2013-02-02 20:55:52 : <Hippy> I really should pay more attention to science stuff
2013-02-02 20:57:42 : <SeanS> welk looks to be beaver island, michigan
2013-02-02 21:00:26 : <SeanS> which accounts for the very cold temps
2013-02-02 21:00:32 : <Hippy> Ah, of course. I was looking up the radio station. I assumed that the W and K always meant radio or TV stations
2013-02-02 21:01:12 : <Jim> .weather KEKN
2013-02-02 21:01:13 : <Outsider> Overcast ☁, 24.8℉ (-4℃), 29.95in (1011mb), Light Snow, Mist, Light breeze 4kt (↑) - KEKN, 20:51Z
2013-02-02 21:01:24 : <Jim> that is Elkins, WV
2013-02-02 21:02:08 : <Hippy> Well, -4 isn't too bad
2013-02-02 21:02:16 : <Jim> nope
2013-02-02 21:02:50 : <Jim> Larry, if you are out there, we are all downloading really good porn.
2013-02-02 21:02:55 : <SeanS> I am a summer person. If I had the money I would winter in the Caymans.
2013-02-02 21:02:57 : <Jim> Weather porn that is.
2013-02-02 21:05:30 : <SeanS> so how bout some book Ideas. I am always looking for something new to read.
2013-02-02 21:05:34 : <Hippy> That would be nice. I prefer a cold climate, so I would summer in Canada
2013-02-02 21:06:26 : <Hippy> Well, I'm reading 'Year's Best SF 17' on the Kindle and there is some good stuff in there. There usually is. There is also some crap, though
2013-02-02 21:06:52 : <Hippy> I should get into 'Moon Maze Game' at some point
2013-02-02 21:07:22 : <Lensman> For those who have read BOWL OF HEAVEN, how do you like it?
2013-02-02 21:07:30 : <SeanS> I read the moon maze game. Not bad.
2013-02-02 21:07:48 : <Jim> .weather CXWN
2013-02-02 21:07:50 : <Outsider> Cloudy, -2.2℉ (-19℃), 29.97in (1012mb), Light Snow, Gentle breeze 9kt (↑) - CYWG, 21:00Z
2013-02-02 21:08:15 : <Jim> Winnipeg, MB
2013-02-02 21:08:17 : <Lensman> New Dream Park novel? Gosh, I didn't realize how far behind on my Nivens I am!
2013-02-02 21:09:16 : <Hippy> It's Winnipeg for the summer, then
2013-02-02 21:09:38 : <SeanS> it gets hot in canada in the summer.
2013-02-02 21:10:06 : <Hippy> So I'm told. That certainly surprised me, but apparently Edmonton gets as hot as here
2013-02-02 21:10:23 : <SeanS> I was talking to some canadians vacationing in florida and they said it is amazing how many americans show up in canada with snowmobiles in the summer looking for snow.
2013-02-02 21:10:38 : <Jim> Manitoba gets very hot in summer and very cold in the winter. North American lagers have rice in them because of the hot summer heat.
2013-02-02 21:10:41 : <Lensman> How hot is "hot" in Winnipeg?
2013-02-02 21:10:52 : <Lensman> Does it ever get to 100?
2013-02-02 21:11:36 : <Jim> yes
2013-02-02 21:11:39 : <Hippy> Lager with rice in it???? Good God!!
2013-02-02 21:11:50 : <Lensman> Okay, then it qualifies.
2013-02-02 21:11:59 : <Jim> Record temperature for Winnipeg is 105.1 degrees F.
2013-02-02 21:12:19 : <Hippy> That's amazing!
's impression of Canada has changed considerably
2013-02-02 21:12:49 : <Lensman> I'll never forget my friends visiting England and saying the locals apologized because it was "so hot".... actually got up to 80!
2013-02-02 21:13:01 : <Jim> Record low temperature is -44 degrees F.
2013-02-02 21:13:33 : <Lensman> Well, I guess if you wear three layers of wool all the time, 80 is quite hot. :)
2013-02-02 21:13:47 : <SeanS> i always thought that mexico was a big desert because of westerns. then a friend moved there and keeps sending pictures of a subtropical paradise.
2013-02-02 21:14:19 : <Jim> SeanS, NW Mexico is desert.
2013-02-02 21:14:39 : <Lensman> Mexico is a big country. Plenty of room for different climates.
2013-02-02 21:14:42 : <SeanS> he lives in a mountain town about half an hour from porta vallarta
2013-02-02 21:16:47 : <Lensman> Well, I guess we get no Larry and no Ed today.
2013-02-02 21:16:57 : <fredskuentz> or richard or carol
2013-02-02 21:16:58 : <Lensman> Is it my imagination, or has Ed's participation dropped off?
2013-02-02 21:17:18 : <Jim> Ed is busy with his own projects.
2013-02-02 21:17:25 : <Lensman> Haven't seen Carol here for some time.
2013-02-02 21:17:26 : <Hippy> No, I think you're right about that, Lens
2013-02-02 21:17:50 : <Jim> I have not seen Carol in the chats in a very long time.
2013-02-02 21:18:07 : <SeanS> I have not heard from Ed.
2013-02-02 21:18:23 : <Jim> CONFUSE-A-CAROL: Which Carol?
2013-02-02 21:18:39 : <SeanS> flying dragon carol phillips
2013-02-02 21:18:41 : <Lensman> Flying Dragon. Carol Phillips.
2013-02-02 21:18:47 : <fredskuentz> no
2013-02-02 21:18:51 : <fredskuentz> carol from berkeley
2013-02-02 21:19:05 : <fredskuentz> I talked to her yesterday and she said she'd try today
2013-02-02 21:19:15 : <Jim> I am, I am a Neanderthal Engineer.
2013-02-02 21:19:29 : "Dan" joined the channel.
2013-02-02 21:19:34 : <SeanS> hey dan
2013-02-02 21:19:35 : <Jim> Dan!
2013-02-02 21:19:40 : <fredskuentz> I don't even think Dan will make it
2013-02-02 21:19:43 : <Hippy> Did you see that about some scientist - hi, Dan!
2013-02-02 21:20:02 : <Lensman> What's Carol-from-Berkeley's screen name?
2013-02-02 21:20:08 : <Hippy> Some scientist wants some woman to gestate a Neanderthal?
2013-02-02 21:20:09 : <Dan> Just checking in for a bit before going to work tonight. Hi, folks!
2013-02-02 21:20:16 : <fredskuentz> Here? I have no idea.
2013-02-02 21:20:17 : <Lensman> Hi Dan!
2013-02-02 21:20:37 : <Jim> Lensman, Dragon something or another.
2013-02-02 21:20:40 : <SeanS> I dont remember berkeley carol coming into chat
2013-02-02 21:20:57 : <SeanS> flyingdragon is carol from houston
2013-02-02 21:21:08 : <Hippy> Nor do I, but I think Fred means she intended to today, but hassn't shown up
2013-02-02 21:21:09 : <Lensman> "The Gnarly Man".
2013-02-02 21:21:25 : <Dan> Carol from Texas is "Flying Dragon Goddess" or something similar.
2013-02-02 21:21:42 : <Lensman> Just Flying Dragon.
2013-02-02 21:21:58 : <NickE> Hey Dan
2013-02-02 21:22:39 : <fredskuentz> What Hippy said
AFK for a cup of tea
2013-02-02 21:24:37 : <Dan> On my first cup of coffee, here. Just woke up...
2013-02-02 21:24:57 : <SeanS> sipping on a beer here.
2013-02-02 21:25:52 : <SeanS> watching the snow start to fizzle out as I send it on for Jim to enjoy.
2013-02-02 21:26:46 : <Jim> nice
2013-02-02 21:26:54 : <SeanS> lol
2013-02-02 21:27:13 : <SeanS> I will get some more in to forward to you come monday.
2013-02-02 21:28:04 : <Dan> I'm thing strongly about asking Hippy to UPS us a large crate of Summer, just enough to get our house through this cold snap. Temps got down to 5 degrees below freezing at work last night. I was dressed for it, though. :)
2013-02-02 21:28:34 : <SeanS> good idea
2013-02-02 21:30:29 : <Hippy> You're welcome to what summer we have, but it's been a cold February so far
2013-02-02 21:30:49 : <Hippy> And a pretty mild January. Only two days over 100F
2013-02-02 21:31:32 : <Dan> It won't be that cold tonight. Predicted low is 34F, 2 degrees above zreezing.
2013-02-02 21:33:19 : <Hippy> My impression of Georgia is changing, too. I thought even the winters were pretty mild
2013-02-02 21:33:25 : <SeanS> how did we get on such a big weather kick today?
points at Jim. "He started it"
2013-02-02 21:34:10 : <Jim> yes, I did.
2013-02-02 21:34:32 : <Dan> Georgia Winters usually are pretty mild. We usually have only about two weeks of extreme cold weather, then Spring starts coming in.
2013-02-02 21:34:35 : <SeanS> yeah, you wearing Outsider out for a while.
2013-02-02 21:34:50 : <SeanS> you were wearing
2013-02-02 21:35:16 : <Jim> My Manga costume?
2013-02-02 21:35:26 : <Jim> hentai
is little creeped out
is pioneering a new language with only sporadic use of articles
2013-02-02 21:36:35 : <SeanS> it shows ;)
2013-02-02 21:39:02 : <Jim> Lately, I have gotten addicted to NCIS.
2013-02-02 21:39:03 : "xihr" left the channel.
2013-02-02 21:40:47 : <SeanS> if there is absolutely nothing else on I will watch NCIS for Abby.
2013-02-02 21:40:56 : <Lensman> My shows are "Suits", "Downton Abbey", "Sherlock", "Hell on Wheels" and "Gold Rush".
2013-02-02 21:41:34 : <SeanS> Abby is the goth computer/forensic girl, right?
2013-02-02 21:41:42 : <Hippy> I packed my TV up last week so I'm not watching a lot. And it's not as easy to download stuff here as seems to be there
2013-02-02 21:43:00 : <Dan> Doctor Who starts back up again around Easter. I understand there have been some specials on BBC America, but we no longer get that channel. We removed it because of Gordon Ramsey. He's a bit of a prick.
2013-02-02 21:43:29 : <SeanS> I will look tomorrow, Dan
2013-02-02 21:43:48 : <SeanS> march 30 for the Doctor.
2013-02-02 21:45:01 : <Dan> "Rocket City Rednecks" is on National Geographic, stars a writer friend of mine from the convention circuit. Sean & Hippy have met one of their technical advisors, Stephanie Osborn.
2013-02-02 21:45:12 : <Hippy> I cannot stand the way they use 'Chef' as a title on his shows. 'Chef Ramsay' Die, Ramsay, die!!
2013-02-02 21:45:31 : <SeanS> Stephanie is great.
2013-02-02 21:45:43 : <Hippy> She is a lovely person, alright
2013-02-02 21:46:35 : <Dan> The guys wanted to get Stephanie onscreen, but she claims to find power tools to act like her version of kryptonite.
2013-02-02 21:47:27 : <Hippy> Red or green kryptonite?
2013-02-02 21:47:36 : <SeanS> that kinda explains why she turned to you to make her a steampunk plasma blaster.
2013-02-02 21:47:49 : <Jim> gold kryptonite
2013-02-02 21:48:08 : <Hippy> What does that do?
2013-02-02 21:48:26 : <Dan> LOL! Yeah, she claims that she either hurts herself or damages whatever she's working on if she so much as picks up a screwdriver.
2013-02-02 21:48:27 : <SeanS> or the kryptonite with tar
2013-02-02 21:49:12 : <Jim> Pre-Crisis, it permanently removes superpowers from Kryptonians, by destroying the ability of Kryptonian cells to process solar energy
2013-02-02 21:49:57 : <Hippy> Well, we can't risk that with Stephanie, so tell her to stay well away from the power tools
2013-02-02 21:50:11 : <Dan> Hippy, you've seen it at the Con. It's basically just a pistol-shaped sculpture. Very pretty, but I'm not up to putting flashing lights & SFX sound chips in a wooden toy yet.
2013-02-02 21:51:49 : <Dan> I've got about two & a half weeks to finish a next-gen version that straps to the back of one's hand rather than being a pistol. Should take me a couple of days to finish, if I get the time.
2013-02-02 21:52:14 : <Hippy> Nice
2013-02-02 21:52:15 : <SeanS> whats coming up?
2013-02-02 21:52:33 : <SeanS> anacrocon?
2013-02-02 21:52:38 : <Hippy> Well, the WorldCon in San Antonio
2013-02-02 21:52:47 : <SeanS> i know i blew that spelling
2013-02-02 21:52:48 : <Jim> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kryptonite#Forms_of_Kryptonite
2013-02-02 21:52:49 : <Lensman> Dan, be sure to have pictures to show us!
2013-02-02 21:52:57 : <Dan> The leather bracer is finished, I just need to assemble the metal and wire. Those coils take an hour ot so wo wind.
2013-02-02 21:54:28 : <Hippy> We are getting our own local ComicCon in March. I can imagine few things less interesting, but some people are quie enthused
2013-02-02 21:55:36 : <Dan> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3239205415905&set=a.3194917708740.2156650.1139854823&type=3&src=http%3A%2F%2Fsphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-ash4%2F421025_3239205415905_1817791184_n.jpg&size=960%2C698
2013-02-02 21:55:50 : <Dan> That's the drawing I did for the design
2013-02-02 21:56:28 : "xihr" joined the channel.
2013-02-02 21:56:35 : <Dan> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3389719738669&set=a.3194917708740.2156650.1139854823&type=3&src=http%3A%2F%2Fsphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-ash4%2F419267_3389719738669_1639811609_n.jpg&size=960%2C793
2013-02-02 21:56:47 : <Jim> Is that a Steampunk Plasma Blaster?
2013-02-02 21:56:54 : <Dan> That one is a pic of the leather work for several of them.
2013-02-02 21:59:15 : <Lensman> I have a honeydo, AFK for a few minutes.
2013-02-02 21:59:16 : <NickE> I;ve seen some of these before. Awesome. And yes G Ramsey is a total dick
2013-02-02 21:59:36 : <SeanS> I can't stand ramsey.
2013-02-02 22:00:00 : <Dan> Jim, this next one shows the blaster. One finished, one in progress, and two real firearms to show the scale of the props.
2013-02-02 22:00:02 : <Dan> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3054265112513&set=a.2660593870978.2146563.1139854823&type=3&src=http%3A%2F%2Fsphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-snc7%2F399609_3054265112513_1235000055_n.jpg&size=960%2C803
2013-02-02 22:00:35 : <NickE> Just can't figure out how come nobody has punched teh annoying git in the face., That, I'd watch
2013-02-02 22:01:31 : <Hippy> Well, wait till his ratings drop
2013-02-02 22:01:33 : <SeanS> yeah, I was with you when you gave Stephanie her blaster. Loved it. I am not into steampunk
2013-02-02 22:01:47 : <Jim> I have only seen Honey Boo Boo on The Soup; surely Ramsey is not worse than HBB and her mom.
2013-02-02 22:01:51 : <NickE> Saw teh weirdedst, slightly steampunky French Film last night. The Extraordinary Adventures of Adele Blanc-Sec. Luc Besson directed, lots of fun
2013-02-02 22:02:11 : <SeanS> should of been 'and I am not into steampunk'
2013-02-02 22:03:51 : <Dan> Sean, some of the big-name steampunk prop-makers have seen the blaster, and they really liked it! I was thrilled to see their reactions.
2013-02-02 22:04:16 : <SeanS> you do good work
2013-02-02 22:04:18 : <Hippy> That's good to hear, Dan
2013-02-02 22:06:53 : <Dan> The reason I did so many wrist-bracers is that I'd like to finish them all and sell all but one. I want to keep one for myself. The plan is to finish mine, and use it to get people interested in buying one. Cash money, this time. Not cases of beer, LOL!
2013-02-02 22:07:08 : <SeanS> good plan
2013-02-02 22:07:41 : <SeanS> but with Stephanie, a couple of cases was the right price.
2013-02-02 22:07:54 : <Hippy> This money thing may replace cases of beer
2013-02-02 22:08:28 : <Dan> Yeah, I agree. Her's was *supposed* to be a one-off, but then my wife wanted one, and other people want one too.
2013-02-02 22:09:29 : <SeanS> I look forward to sipping a bit of Irish Mist with her again.
2013-02-02 22:09:52 : <Dan> Me too!
2013-02-02 22:09:54 : <Hippy> I look forward to a Bloody Mary for breakfast
2013-02-02 22:10:04 : <Jim> What is Irish Mist?
2013-02-02 22:10:20 : <Hippy> It's a liqueur or cordial based on Irish whiskey
2013-02-02 22:10:32 : <Dan> A sort of mix between mead and whiskey.
2013-02-02 22:10:37 : <SeanS> a tasty treat
2013-02-02 22:10:51 : <Jim> Instead of a BM, try a RedEye (tomato juice and beer)
2013-02-02 22:11:01 : <Dan> Featured in "Mote In God's Eye" actually.
2013-02-02 22:11:07 : <SeanS> I will go with bloody mary.
2013-02-02 22:11:25 : <Hippy> Yes, tomato juice and beer ruins both drinks
2013-02-02 22:12:01 : <Dan> I tried a Red Beer once, waste of a good beer and good tomato juice, I thought.
2013-02-02 22:12:04 : <SeanS> tastes vary but a red eye doesnt work for me
2013-02-02 22:12:07 : <Jim> BM could have stood for Bowl Movement instead of Bloody Mary.
2013-02-02 22:12:28 : <Jim> :-o
2013-02-02 22:12:36 : <Jim> :-)
2013-02-02 22:12:49 : <Hippy> Also good in the morning, but you don't wnt to confuse the waiter
2013-02-02 22:12:56 : <Jim> :-|
2013-02-02 22:14:38 : <Dan> OK, time for me to get dressed for work. Got to go out and feed the outdoor cats in the pen before I leave. I'm losing daylight. Bye all!
2013-02-02 22:14:58 : <Dan> I'll switch to logging the chat for the rest of the night.
Dan_Away
2013-02-02 22:15:15 : <Jim> bye
2013-02-02 22:16:36 : <SeanS> later dan
2013-02-02 22:17:03 : <Jim> Is anyone a fan of Greg Gutfeld on Fox News Channel?
2013-02-02 22:18:42 : <Hippy> I think Gordon Ramsay is
2013-02-02 22:18:43 : <SeanS> when is he on?
2013-02-02 22:19:16 : <SeanS> I like Imus in the morning on Fox Business
2013-02-02 22:19:31 : <Jim> Gutfeld is on at 5 pm (The Five) and RedEye with Greg Gutfled at 3 am ET.
2013-02-02 22:20:00 : <SeanS> I dont usually watch at those times so I dont know him
2013-02-02 22:21:54 : <Hippy> Well, gentlemen, I have to vacuum the house, so I think I shall head off and get that underway
2013-02-02 22:22:02 : <Hippy> See you all next month
2013-02-02 22:23:10 : "Hippy" left the channel.
2013-02-02 22:23:30 : <Jim> bye
2013-02-02 22:26:38 : <SeanS> anybody use ecigarettes? was thinking about getting the gf one to see if it could work for her.
2013-02-02 22:28:08 : <Jim> nope
2013-02-02 22:28:38 : <SeanS> I quit smoking almost 4 years ago but I keep buying cigs for her. kinda sucks.
2013-02-02 22:29:05 : <Jim> get to smoke cigars
2013-02-02 22:29:26 : <Jim> Getting her to smoke cigars is an idea.
2013-02-02 22:29:57 : <SeanS> her cough sounds like shit. I want something that does not actually involve smoke
2013-02-02 22:32:22 : <SeanS> tho I do think a woman smoking the manly cigar is cool.
2013-02-02 22:38:36 : <Jim> it is about supper time, so until next week, bye
2013-02-02 22:38:44 : <SeanS> later Jim
2013-02-02 22:38:48 : "Jim" left the channel.
2013-02-02 22:38:49 : <SeanS> I will send the snow
2013-02-02 22:40:12 : <SeanS> Nick, Mark told me that BBCA showed some Who specials that the BBC didnt. If I find them tomorrow, do you want them?
2013-02-02 23:02:35 : <NickE> sorry, something came up
2013-02-02 23:03:16 : <NickE> not really, it will jyst be more Confidential stuff - or teh online stuff
2013-02-02 23:04:37 : <NickE> I guess
2013-02-02 23:53:55 : "NickE" left the channel.